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  1. Is more money a reason to leave?

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  2. What if the problem of the Church is the Senior Pastor?
    The Pastor always boasts that because he has the Holy Spirit he knows everything happening.
    In meetings and plannings, its always his idea that’s the only right thing… if someones idea isn’t the same or near to his, its not considerable… Never listens to suggestions or even personal feelings of members & even other church leaders under him…doesn’t discipline enough those staffs that intentionally repeat the same sins or mistakes again and again… and sadly, hides a lot of secret sins and unsettled troubles in the past that still affects the present circumstances… he is not transparent to us leaders.

  3. Roger Williams May 14, 2014 at 10:41 am

    I’m leaving my church because I am tired of being the problem as the pastor. If something is wrong in the church, I am blamed by the congregation. On the other hand, my pastor friends and denominational consultants say I am the solution to turning the church around. But I realize that I can’t do it. Only Jesus can rescue this church. Meanwhile I am going broke and we have no friends here after living here 3 years. I moved 2000 miles to be here and sacrificed greatly to do so. As the pastor, I am one of the youngest in my church and I am scared I will end up being a caretaker of seniors in this church rather than obeying the Great Commission. Our church has had lots of problems and as a result the task of making disciples has fallen by the wayside. I have struggled to put out fires ever since I arrived here and I am so tired. As a result, I have accepted a teaching job in a public school back in my home state and will be moving there at the end of the summer.

    • Roger,

      I wanted to reach out and thank you for the courage to post your comment on I completely understand. When I say that, I’m not just putting on. I pastored a church for five months and watched it nearly die (it did close a couple years after I left). Then I served the next church for seven months, same story (and yes, it’s closed too).

      I was done. I never wanted to pastor again. I really thought I’d just serve part-time on a church staff and work a secular job forever. Three months into that decision, I was asked to be a Pastor again and with great reluctance gave it one more shot. I wound up spending 8 really great years there. The church grew. It doubled, in fact, from about 45 to just over 100 (so not a megachurch, just a healthy small church).

      What I want to say to you is, don’t give up. Don’t write off the possibility that your current experience could very well be the fire God has allowed you to walk through to shape you into the mighty servant He desires you to be. I’m convinced that God is just as concerned about your growth than the growth of the church you’re a part of.

      And also, I never had a true “friend” in the trenches in either of those experiences – at least not the kind you go on to do life with. But God has now surrounded us with quite a few people with whom we feel quite close.

      Don’t give up! As Pastor Rick always says, “the tide goes out, but it always comes back in.”

      I love you brother, and I’m praying for you as I post this reply!

      • Roger Williams May 14, 2014 at 4:45 pm

        Thank you for your encouraging words. It is true that the Lord has shaped me and grown me through these difficulties. I don’t know what the future holds but I am looking forward to having a tent-making job again and plan to minister in a local church whether volunteer or paid.
        I am grieving, though. I feel I have failed the Lord. I did everything I was taught to do in seminary and by my mentors. I preached. I prayed. I pastored. I discipled.
        Yet, our church has not grown. The few young men that I have discipled and who got on fire for the Lord have gone to college or other churches that have younger people.
        Others left the church over personal conflict with other members.
        And I am left alone without any leaders and all the hats to wear.
        I know my experience as a pastor is not unique. I hear stories like this all the time. But where are the Christians in America if not in churches? When the Lord saved me, he changed my life! I pray, give, serve, read my Bible, share my faith, etc. because I am a Christian not just because I am a pastor. I have looked for this life change in others in the church (let’s call it a new birth) but don’t see it. If it is there, it is very faint. That’s OK because I know the Lord is working on us at different levels. But a whole church of faint Christians doesn’t seem right according to the Bible. A church that struggles to be a light in its community tells the world a false message–that Jesus doesn’t really make a difference in our lives. I have considered leaving my denomination, thinking maybe it’s the problem. I have considered leaving the ministry, thinking maybe what’s required/expected of the pastor is not biblical. And now I am leaving my church, because I know that I am not what the need anymore. I can preach the truth and counsel and disciple from the Bible, but I am not the Holy Spirit.

  4. Man, these are good questions to seriously ask ourselves a pastors. And not only that, but to ask those under our care who have at least floated the idea of “finding another church”. We all can so easily fall into the false comfort that tickled ears and stroked egos generate.