How did this make an impact?

  1. Peter Poon Jr April 8, 2018 at 8:50 am

    I was told my abilities were not good enough to run the sound board during main services. I was a church volunteer and had ran sound once a month for the last three years. I’m considering leaving the church our family has been attending for eleven years because of this and other incidents ie, an afro american music director was told to stop his black gospel style of music because people didn’t like it and complained, another person was told they sing too white when trying out for the worship team, etc.

  2. Peter Poon Jr April 8, 2018 at 8:47 am

    I was told my abilities were not good enough to run the sound board during main services. I was a church volunteer and had ran sound once a month for the last three years. I’m considering leaving the church our family has been attending for eleven years because of this and other incidents ie, an afro american music director was told to stop his black gospel style of music because people didn’t like it and complained, another person was told they sing too white when trying out for the worship team, etc.

  3. Totally agree with you.  A month ago I spoke about our need for more Children’s Church volunteers (in order to keep it running legally for a start!!) – Before I spoke we had around 8 volunteers and it seemed that no matter who we asked – we just couldn’t get anyone else to volunteer.  After I spoke – we had over 30 volunteers.  The difference?  Simple.  I told them where they could help and I told them they were good enough to do it.  (I also mentioned training and support which I also think is key).  It made me realise that people are willing to serve in all sorts of capacities – they just need to know how and where – and, like you say, they need to know that they are good enough to do it.  Great post, thanks.

  4. Jesus called, cared, and nurtured 12 closely.  Among the multitude that followed, many were also healed of their infirmeties.  When following Christ, theres always room for growth, correction, and instruction.  Jesus, just in time arrives to meet our needs.  Regardless.  Good topic.

  5. I believe when I read the purpose driven churn that they strived for excellence. If they didn’t have the right people to do a ministry then it was said they didn’t do it. How does this fit with their original thought. Have they had a change in ministry philosophy?

  6. I would like to know what “Good Enough” looks like! Do they need to know Jesus? Do they have to have some moral conduct? Do they have to know anything about the Word? Do they just need to be breathing? What do you really expect from them? In the classroom? Personal life? Meetings? Training? Love people? Time?

  7. I still like excellence… In so much as being as excellent as YOU can be… And to provide real ways to grow up you offering.. Just sayin’

  8. Of course, no one’s “good enough,” but Jesus! But he inhabits ALL believers! :)

    Just as it is incumbent on the elders (‘clergy’) to discern who is capable, mature, etc. for works of service, so too it’s in their job description to be equipping the saints for such, Eph. 4:11-12.

    And in making “excellence” an idol, perhaps some perfectionists in the pulpit cannot see their way clear to be training [& trusting!] others.

  9. 2 aspects here then….
    1. “I’m not good enough to….” (or I’m not as good as….), is an attitude that stops people serving and denies both them and the church the blessings that brings
    2. “that’s good enough” meaning I can’t be bothered to make any more effort, can reveal an attitude that doesn’t give God the best we can offer and also denies the person and the church the blessings that brings.
    As always, it is the heart that is important to God! Ezekiel 33:31, Isaiah 29:13, 1 Samuel 16:7 (Amongst others)

  10.  I agree 100%! However, for many churches “Good enough” is just an excuse for not giving God your best.  Many people in our church say “That’s good enough” and the church and ministry suffers because they don’t put God first in their lives.  The Church should be willing to take whatever a person has (Jn 6:37 Christ was speaking of salvation but it is a good rule for the church to follow.) But the believer should give the best they’ve got. (Col. 3:17)

  11. If something is worth doing, it’s worth doing badly…. at least to start with !  Aim for zero unemployment in the congregation, remembering  ” they also serve who only stand and wait”.(Milton)

  12. Absolutely!
    This is especially true in the area of Worship and musicianship. Obviously there is a tension because if someone really IS tone deaf, then the worship team is perhaps not the best place, but anyone “good enough” should not be put off by a team demanding excellence. Paul Baloche says something similar.