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  1. mario (Penguin) estrada March 10, 2016 at 7:35 am

    I received a call yesterday fro a sister in Christ who is concerned about the pastor at a small rural church in our community. It seems the sheep aren’t being fed and the pastor doesn’t seem to be hearing the cry of the hungry. As a street Evangelist of many years, I learned humility to be the first need in order to hear God. No matter how much I read the word, without humility, I would never understand… My wife and I travel twenty five miles for fellowship for the reasons this sister expressed concerns about. I attempted to share with the brother who took over as pastor from a planting church organization. I didn’t feel he was ready then, or now…prayer is order as it should be always… This article, is an extremely informative publication which I found to have more than welcomed information that I will pass on to those in the congregation for them to research and take to God’s alter in prayer. They call me, Penguin. The biker pastor, although, I am only HIS servant… Many blessings…

  2. Great article. I pastured many years. My greatest failure? Number one was getting so busy doing Gods work I neglected my private time with Him. Why did I get so busy? This Lone Ranger attitude. Everyone should print this article and keep it somewhere you can retread it often.
    Stephen Downey
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  3. This is excellent. I’m sending this off to a number of guys who run “pastor’s fellowships” where you sit and listen to preaching, but there’s no “fellowshipping” happening.

  4. Associate Pastor August 6, 2012 at 8:07 am

    I agree with Dr. Joe, but would add this insight: I am the associate pastor on my present field of ministry (where I’ve been 6 years) and serve with a sincere senior pastor. The thing that is threatening his ministry is that he resists input, counsel and accountability from members of his own church. He’s very active with the pastor’s fellowship, but has few, if any, meaningful relationships with anyone in the church. (And this is not a difficult church to serve in the sense of folks being “out to get” pastors — this is one of the more supportive places I’ve served, with mature lay leadership that want to see the Kingdom advanced.) He simply prefers doing things his own way. Again, he is a sincere man who wants to see God honored, but has never come to grips with fact that Good has equipped others and speaks to others than himself. He has adopted a lone ranger approach for years which is now beginning to threaten his ministry — but of much greater concern, it is hindering the work of the church. In my prayer-bathed efforts to speak to him about this, he has at least heard me — others have been met with anger and accusations of being insubordinate. But he is too proud to change, and I sense a rising distaste for his methods–not him, necessarily– that is going to end his ministry if he does not open himself up to people who want to help.

  5. Yes this is insightful, but what is the root cause of this is a problem. Could it be that the whole concept of paid professional pastoring is the issue? The clergy system of the paid professional minister is a recipe for failure. It is not at all what Paul had in mind when he talked with the elders/pastors from Epesus while he was in Miletus. Acts 20

    • Jack, for the sake of this thread I don’t want to get into a debate about this but offer some verses that may help you look at this in a different light.

      In 1 Timothy 5:17-18 it says “Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching. For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain,” and, “The laborer deserves his wages.”

      In 1 Corinthians 9:9 it says, “For it is written in the Law of Moses, “You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain.” Is it for oxen that God is concerned?”

      Also here are a couple more scriptures that Jesus spoke about in regards to this- Luke 10:7-8 and Matthew 10:10.


  6. “Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ” (Galatians 1:10). Consider the dangers of narcissism in leadership, http://thinkpoint.wordpress.com/2010/12/10/dangers-of-narcissism-in-leadership-and-a-christmas-lesson/

  7. People often don’t realize the humility needed to pastor. They want to cover their needs with performance rather than grace. Pastors often don’t realize the importance of spiritual gifts – God made it so no one person can ever do it alone.

  8. Very insightful & helpful article, thank you!