• There are certainly plenty of details like that to take into consideration. That could be a great point to bring up. I supply the ideas above as basic inspiration however clearly there are questions just like the one you carry up where a very powerful factor will likely be working in sincere good faith. I don?t know if finest practices have emerged round things like that, however I’m sure that your job is clearly identified as a good game. Each girls and boys really feel the affect of just a second pleasure, for the remainder of their lives.

  • kenhowes

    Preach the Gospel. Not “how to”. Not “good people go to heaven, bad people go to the other place.” Not politics–conservative or liberal. The Gospel. We were utterly lost. In the old penitential formula, we were “poor miserable sinners”–whether we knew it or not. But for the sake of Jesus Christ’s perfect sacrifice and atonement, we have everlasting life with Him. Preach that. Show, in your weekly texts, how that applied to the people in those texts and from there how that applies to us now. Where the Word is, the Holy Spirit is; and where the Holy Spirit is, people are saved. You don’t have to be “cool”. You don’t need a rock band or a projector screen. The only “dynamis” needed is that of the Holy Spirit.

    • Ken, we don’t disagree with anything you said. All good points. Any church replacing the gospel should remember, repent, and return.
      Now, if a church is extremely faithful to the gospel and ALSO finds a way to communicate it clearly to a lost culture, that should be okay, right?

      • kenhowes

        Of course. The two are not mutually exclusive.

  • raphael

    Trash !

  • 2000@

    I agree with all your points and we do need not be shoddy and not care about these things. Too often, these things have been just let go. On the other hand (and I have been at this for near fifty years and am still pastoring) we have done much to attract people to us and our church’s programs and facilities. I’m so fearful that many whom we think have been saved have missed the point. One of my professors years ago said, “You have to keep them with the same things you win them with.” We have a rock n roll church in our area that reaches a few young people, but they have trouble keeping them. They want to be radically different from all other Christian churches. Pentecostals have long used much emotion and emotion is not enough. If we do not really lead them to Jesus saving grace, what good have we done? I am for using every method that does not disgrace the Lord Jesus, the only message of the gospel. He alone is the Savior and really doesn’t need our help except for us to be like Him. For what its worth…

  • Funny that you mention i went to a church that had no body guards and a member church over 12,000 the pastor said what i need a body guard for when i have the full armor of GOD on daily

  • Lyn

    “You don’t have to have the best of the best to see God move”?? I think that that is a very odd statement to make! Since when did having the best of the best ever inform whether God would move in our midst or not? Let us hope that we never feel that “excellence” in worship is mandatory in order to see God move.

    • Leon

      I think that is what he was saying.

  • Mircea Husar

    And I thought that Irresistible was a reference to Irresistible Grace … Hence, the Irresistible Church is full of Irresistible Grace … But I was wrong! It’s all about what the marketing model of the day dictates! Welcome to the AdChurch, the Church that markets itself …irresistibly!