• Jeff

    Your first mistake is thinking that size is the sole indicator of growth.
    A church body of twenty can show more “growth” while staying at twenty more so than a congregation of twenty that “grows” into the hundreds or even the thousands.

    I could talk about this for hours…but to keep it simple…QUANTITY has NOTHING to do with it.

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  • There is, indeed, a kind of growth called FRACTAL GROWTH, and it’s found in the nature (ex. at a coral reef). At that sense, I DO believe in a endless growth of the body of Christ trough a local church. You make two leaders, that make two more leaders, and so on…

    God bless!


    • Jon Harris

      Can we just be more transparent?
      The title of the article should be, “You have heard Rick Warren say, but now I say unto you…”
      I heard Reggie McNeal do the same thing, quoting a common truism from Bill Hybels without using his name, then…”and now I say unto you.” Is provocateurism the new intellectual currency needed to get published?

      I am not sure whether churches are ‘predestined’ or not.

      Though I do resonant with the author’s concern and thesis; maybe there is a pitfall for both premises:
      That a healthy church should continually grow can certainly lead to discouragement if it does not happen.
      The preordained church idea can lead to apathy…”it is all up to God.”

      So in the end are we back to Aristotle’s Golden Mean, ‘the truth lies somewhere in the middle?’ Maybe.