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  1. The loss of theology has produced a shift from God to self; and from exposition in
    the pulpit to psychoanalyzing. Our identity is defined by Christ in us not by personality traits.

    • Shane, identity and personality are two related but still separate subjects. The fact is, God, who grants us a new identity in Christ is still the divine creator of many diverse personalities. And if psychoanalysis leads us to conclusions that line up with scripture, there is absolutely nothing negative about it.

      • I would argue that psychology of the mind is self centered at it’s core, not Christ centered. Modern pop psychoanalysis is not found in the word and is by nature at odds with true christianity. Yes we are unique and diverse yet sharing the common bond of being In Christ. This celebrated mystery is organic and outward. Understanding our gifts and using them for the edification of the body is paramount.

    • Theology, rightly defined and understood, is mankind’s best reflection about God. Too much of what we call theological exposition focuses on the reflection-which is manmade- and loses sight of the Eternal God Himself.

      • Theology is not intended to be simply a reflection reduced to the abstract. In contrast proper theology compels and empowers us to live righteously because good theology is truth. We are sanctified by the truth.

      • And the Truth is a Person- Jesus Christ- Who saves us, sanctifies us, and speaks to us through His Word, which is also Truth. It has been my experience that God’s Word is always powerful and true, while my own thoughts about God’s Word, as brilliant as they are (;-)), are not nearly as reliable or true. It is God’s Word itself that must compel and empower us. Theology– even good theology– cannot be the primary driver, because theology is always a derived and tentative truth, while God’s Truth is perfect, unchanging, revealed Truth.

        This makes theology analogous to the traditions of the elders spoken of in the Bible. Jesus condemned the application of those traditions, not because they were inherently or necessarily wrong, but because people put their faith in the elders’ traditions and gave them priority over the Word of God itself. That reversal is what happens when people begin to call any particular theological system “Truth.” Which is what I was getting at in my first comment.

        IMHO, we haven’t lost theology; rather, we have attempted to supplant the sufficient authority of God’s Perfect Word with our own self-proclaimed authority. To claim that the Truth of God’s Word cannot stand on its own merits without an externally imposed theological framework, or without human exposition is tantamount to calling God an inept and ineffective communicator who can not organize His thoughts very well.

        (BTW, I am with you on the psychobabble.)

      • I agree with you that there are many different views on what scripture tells us about who God and how he relates to us. Those differences lie in the errors of man not of God as you point out. Where I would lay a distinction is in that truth can be known by man. God gave us His word in order to make Himself known. Our greatest goal in life should be to seek to know Him more. Once we stop seeking is when we start holding to traditions and worldly philosophies. God’s word is sufficient for all we need on how to live righteously (always a work in progress I have come to know :).

        Theology is not merely intellectual training in orthodox propositions; theology is the vital knowledge of God which is intended to engage the whole person. The study of theology must be joined to vision for one’s life; and not merely the apprehension and mastering of more orthodox facts.

        My overall point is that Theology should be preached and taught. Increasingly churches are manifesting indifference toward doctrinal precision. At the root of this indifference is dislike of doctrinal assertions lest they cause controversy. They fear controversy more than error. In His grace, Shane

      • I am really not anti-theology. I think we agree with one another on most points– we are just coming at the issue from two different perspectives. “Good” theology will produce all of the benefits you speak of. But I think you will also agree that there is about as much “bad” theology out there as there is psychobabble. And I would suggest that unwillingness to be obedient to the plain teaching of the Word is at least as an issue as lack of theological depth. I think we see many more moral failures in our pulpits than we do heretical theological positions. So, bottom line, I would say we are talking “both/and” and not “either/or.”

        And, apologies to all for taking this discussion away from its original question.

      • YES! bad theology is rampant in churches today which is the connection I’m underlining. BAD THEOLOGY LEADS TO “MORAL FAILURE”. This is precisely the disconnect in many of our churches today. The view is theology is somehow separate from ethics is reducing it to orthodox facts. It isn’t! Recalling Paul’s instruction to Timothy to “preach the word”. Theology drives ethics, not the other way around. Although i’m not so sure this discussion is not in context with the article. Grace to you Tim, I always enjoy a good discussion in the spirit of truth.

  2. I think extroverts should be grateful for us. While we introverts generate our own ‘energy’, extroverts are parasitic and gain their energy from other people. So every time an extrovert wants more of my time and energy, they are actually asking me to generate energy for both of us. In my worse moments I feel like saying “Go make your own energy instead of draining it from me!” In my better moments I think: “Okay, you can’t help being an extrovert. So allow me to be an introvert, otherwise we are both in trouble!”

  3. I would add one more: “Don’t beat yourself up for not being Joel Osteen.”

  4. Thank you!!!!! I feel affirmed…